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Ah'll tek the High Road

So Gordon Brown is concerned that the union between England and Scotland is under threat.

What do you think?

Poll #905956 England and Scotland: together forever or better off apart?

Should England and Scotland maintain their current union, or become separate sovereign nations?

Remain united
20(55.6%)
Separate
16(44.4%)


Sorry - there are no snowflakes here.

Comments

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poliphilo
Jan. 13th, 2007 11:25 am (UTC)
Brown is bothered because a break-up of the Union would scupper his political ambitions. So I'll vote for separation, just to see the look on his face.
strange_complex
Jan. 13th, 2007 12:35 pm (UTC)
That seems a very dramatic gesture, just to annoy Gordon Brown!
poliphilo
Jan. 13th, 2007 12:44 pm (UTC)
'Fraid I can't stand the man.

innerbrat
Jan. 13th, 2007 01:08 pm (UTC)
I voted for what I want, not what I think will happen. Although I'm not happy right now that MSPs get to vote on England-only matters.
sashajwolf
Jan. 13th, 2007 01:41 pm (UTC)
I think you mean Westminster MPs from Scottish constituencies?
innerbrat
Jan. 13th, 2007 01:51 pm (UTC)
Very probably.

Still bitter about the top-up fees fiasco.
strange_complex
Jan. 13th, 2007 01:46 pm (UTC)
I voted for what I want, not what I think will happen

No problem - that's exactly what I was asking about.
ex_lark_asc
Jan. 13th, 2007 01:10 pm (UTC)
I've got no idea what useful purpose it would serve to be an independent sovereign nation as small as *any* subpart of the UK...
strange_complex
Jan. 13th, 2007 01:48 pm (UTC)
Me neither. I'm also, as a general principle, more interested in seeing nations establishing formal modes of cooperation than undoing them. But I'm interested to hear what others think.
pickwick
Jan. 13th, 2007 02:02 pm (UTC)
Well, there are plenty of other small sovereign nations out there who do fine.

I'm also more interested in seeing nations cooperate, and I'd expect Scotland to cooperate in Europe far more readily than Britain does, which is one reason I vaguely support independence. And Scotland would cooperate with people other than America, which would be nice :)

But as I said on someone else's journal the other day, the main reason I'll vote for independence in a referendum just now is because it seems the only way of not having London's nuclear weapons on my doorstep for the next 100 years.
strange_complex
Jan. 13th, 2007 02:26 pm (UTC)
Hee, yeah - that's a pretty good reason. But it does leave those people in England who'd rather not have the weapons renewed, or cooperate with America so much, up the swanee! From our point of view, it would be better to keep hold of as many people as possible who feel the same way, in Scotland or wherever, to try to make sure the perspective carries some weight.
pickwick
Jan. 13th, 2007 02:29 pm (UTC)
Yeah, true. I can't even imagine how much weight it would need to make NuLab actually paid any attention to people, though... There were a bunch of Scottish, Welsh and European politicians arrested at a Faslane demo the other week, and as far as I know it didn't even hit the national press.
nyecamden
Jan. 13th, 2007 02:04 pm (UTC)
I don't really care, it's up to the Scottish. I'd rather not have to have a passport when visiting parts of Britain (the island) as I don't own one, but that's not a major deal.

I'd quite like London to be a city state (probably just in the fantasy land of Nye), but that's another matter.
qatsi
Jan. 13th, 2007 05:17 pm (UTC)
You really need an option for "I don't care".
strange_complex
Jan. 13th, 2007 05:32 pm (UTC)
There is an option for 'I don't care' - don't vote! ;)
mr_tom
Jan. 13th, 2007 07:03 pm (UTC)
[X] Once we've had all the North Sea oil and gas, they can have the land back.
diffrentcolours
Jan. 13th, 2007 07:40 pm (UTC)
In a way I'd like to see separation, because I believe that devolution of power from Westminster is almost always a good thing. I'm not sure that it'd be in either England or Scotland's economic or social interests to do so.
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